The Photography World Cup 2026: Which Camera Wins?

In this mid summer check-in, Steve and Nick reunite after a hectic few weeks of weddings, travel, house moves and an ill-advised afternoon involving several IPAs and very little food. The conversation covers recent wedding adventures, working together as photographers for the first time, thoughts on new camera gear, and a completely unscientific "Photography World Cup" to crown the best camera of 2026. 

In This Episode

The London Meet-Up That Went Slightly Wrong

Steve and Nick finally meet up in person . What starts as a sensible plan for a quick drink after a London wedding quickly escalates into a cautionary tale involving multiple pints, a tube journey that went round in circles, and a desperate dash for the last train home. 

Shooting a Wedding Together

The pair reflect on photographing a wedding together for the first time after Samantha was forced to step back due to illness. They discuss:

•  Different shooting styles and approaches 
•  The benefits of second shooting 
•  Creative freedom versus lead photographer responsibility 
•  Lighting setups and dancefloor photography 
•  Learning new techniques from another experienced photographer 

Wedding Season and Life Updates

Nick shares an update on his imminent house move, while both discuss the reality of balancing busy wedding seasons with family life, editing workloads and running photography businesses. 

Gear Talk

The discussion turns to camera equipment, including:

•  The DJI Osmo Pocket 4 and rumours of a Pocket 4 Pro 
•  Using crop mode on high-resolution Sony cameras 
•  Whether 61MP sensors can replace multiple focal lengths 
•  The continuing appeal of compact cameras 
•  Why neither host has bought much new gear recently (apart from Steve buying a Toyota) 

The Photography Pod World Cup 2026

Inspired by the football World Cup, Steve and Nick create a knockout tournament featuring some of photography's biggest camera names:

•  Canon 5D Mark IV 
•  Nikon D850 
•  Fuji X-T5 
•  Fuji X100VI 
•  Canon R5 Mark II 
•  Sony A1 Mark II 

After a series of highly questionable comparisons and football analogies, a surprise winner emerges. The result says more about how photographers actually enjoy taking photographs than it does about technical specifications. 

 A Walk and a Pint

Steve reveals plans for a new YouTube project combining local walks, photography, pubs and storytelling. The concept is simple: start at a pub, head out for a walk, explore the local area, then return for a well-earned pint. Nick immediately volunteers to be a guest. 

What's Next?

The Photography Pod will return properly in the autumn once wedding season calms down. Future plans include:

•  More regular episodes 
•  Guest interviews 
•  Listener meet-ups 
•  Street photography outings 
•  Greater community involvement 
•  More YouTube content 

Links & Mentions

•  DJI Osmo Pocket 4 
•  Sony A1 II 
•  Canon R5 II 
•  Fujifilm X100VI 
•  A Walk and a Pint (coming soon) 

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Transcript

Steve (00:00.972)
Nick, most of the time that we record this podcast, it's me sitting here in North Oxfordshire and you by the power of the internet sitting down in the Bristol area. But over the last few weeks, we've actually managed to meet up a couple of times face to face. And guess what? I've actually got legs. I can actually move around. I trouse this. Well, actually now I'm wearing shorts right now, but you don't want to see that.

Nick (00:16.023)
I didn't realize, yeah. And trousers and everything. So I was, I was worried. I was worried about that. Do you wear track? Do you wear, have you ever worn shorts for a wedding?

Steve (00:26.028)
I haven't, no, I've never had the guts to do that of you.

Nick (00:29.259)
I have once yeah, but I did it was a nice tailor pair of shorts and I thought I'd get away with this and then the vicar the first thing he said was right you're dressed for the occasion then so I felt really self-conscious the rest of the day but I think it's when it's crazy hot I think it's perfectly reasonable to have a nice pair of shorts yeah

Steve (00:41.42)
I always take two shirts. So we've got two weddings coming up this weekend. I always take two shirts, but I've never worn shorts. No. If I was a content creator, of course I could turn up in t-shirts and deck shorts and I'll be like, is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nick (00:53.175)
I think I think you can charge more. can charge more if you do that. Yeah, yeah, the more you know, and if you it's worth getting some of those pretend tattoo sleeves you can get, know, like the nylon ones you put on charge an extra fortune for that as well.

Steve (01:04.078)
great idea. Yeah, we are cool, which I'm not. So we did a wedding together, which we'll come back to in a little while, but we also met up in London a few weeks ago. And I was in London having a reunion with people I went to university with a long, long, long, long, long time ago. I'm not going to say how long ago it was because it really does then date me as something from the Cro-Magnon era. But yeah, I met up with some old university mates and you were doing a wedding in London. So we said, I know, why don't we meet up for a beer? Yeah.

Nick (01:29.939)
I was doing a wedding. It was a great idea, wasn't it? In principle, it was the perfect plan. Yeah, it was a wedding in Chelsea, Chelsea Old Church with a couple of my clients. And I shot the wedding with friend of the pod, Matt, who's one of my mentoring students. So he came along, got some fantastic shots as well. It was really good to see him. That was another person that I'd not actually met in real life. So that was really nice as well.

Steve (01:35.585)
It was, yeah.

Steve (01:40.332)
Yeah, nice.

Steve (01:50.222)
Yeah, it's great to see him as well. Good.

Steve (01:58.223)
Was he much taller than you expected or was he, know, less so? okay. Sorry, man.

Nick (01:59.655)
then, less so bless him. Yeah. Bless him. But he was lovely. Yeah. Lovely. And he lives not too far away. So he knew all the places to go. So, yeah, but this is, this is where it all falls apart. Like the whole, the whole perfect plan falls apart. So I had to leave Bristol at, about, you know what church weddings like is quite early. So I think the church wedding was maybe 11 o'clock kickoff. So I left Bristol at seven. as most people know.

Steve (02:21.411)
Completely, yeah.

Nick (02:29.738)
that know me I'm not a breakfast person so I hadn't eaten at all. Although we had really nice time at the wedding. It only a short so it's good we're meeting you afterwards. But you were fraternizing with your old Oxbridge chums. Birmingham yeah so you so you were so we thought right all we need to do we just need to go to a local boozer for a quick drink. Wait for Steve to come available so we went for a drink. We quaffed a

Steve (02:32.494)
Okay.

Steve (02:44.844)
Now Birmingham mate, Birmingham. Red brick here.

Nick (02:56.886)
The couple insisted we had a quick champagne or a quick prosecco before we left. we'd next that went to the pub, had an IPA. That then turned into two IPAs. We both started saying, should we eat anything? No, it's fine. Steve's, and I said, Steve's available now, so let's head over. So we relied on Matt, who had some, what would you assume some more local knowledge about a pub to go to, who picked a pub in, where was it? was near Temple Tube. I don't even know where it was.

Steve (03:01.358)
Of course, of course.

Steve (03:20.556)
You would think so.

Steve (03:25.333)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (03:26.23)
and we said, right, Steve, we're Matt and I got there and it was, it was the same day as a Tommy Robinson gig, not gig, what they called protest, whatever they did. And so it was, was full of people with, draped in their flags, which if it was this week with the world cup running, then you would think great, a football pub. was fine. The foot you might be on, but it definitely wasn't that the vibe was totally off. So we had another couple of points in there and you turned up. so we caught up with you a little bit. I then was facing, this was about three o'clock, four o'clock.

Steve (03:34.732)
Well, protest, yeah, yeah.

Steve (03:42.718)
Yeah, but it wasn't no. No. Yeah.

Nick (03:56.023)
or later, it? A later, five o'clock. So I'd gone from seven o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in the afternoon, um, with nothing in my stomach apart from five pints of IPA and a glass of Prosecco. And I went to the loo in that pub and I fell against the, um, I was in the cubicle and I was, I'd keeled into the wall of the cubicle. I couldn't write myself. I thought I am absolutely battered. I'm in this. So I got back to our table because we were chatting and I, and then I sort of made my, what's it called? A French exit.

Steve (03:57.111)
A later, yeah, yeah, a bit later.

Steve (04:04.608)
IPAs.

Steve (04:19.228)
My word.

Nick (04:25.654)
But you just basically, I've got to get it.

Steve (04:26.648)
Well, we were going to do some street photography and we had Osmo Pockets and we were going to do a bit of stuff for the show. But I have to say I'd had a few as well because I'd, know, meeting with people I haven't met for like 30 odd years. know, there was a, we all had an amount of money we had to pay towards the dinner. So, you know, we've got to determine to drink that really. So I had a few as well, but yeah, we didn't go very far, did we?

Nick (04:49.12)
So between the three of us, was, there was, you, I think you were the most steady on your, on your feet. And if you've been, yeah, you, you, did a good job at hiding it. So my, not having anything to eat was shown in just being unable to speak and stand up. Matt had the opposite effects. He'd also not eaten his thing was, was he just could not stop talking. So he was just talking like nonstop. So between the three of us.

Steve (04:54.07)
Well, I'm a good actor.

Steve (05:10.932)
He was like he was recorded at 33 and played at 78.

Nick (05:14.93)
So it was such a thing. got to it. So I made my French exit because I thought I need to, I need to get home. I need to get back to Bristol. So I got, we packed it. I got my camera bag, went to the tube, the tube, which was Temple, which is on the Circle line and sat down. And then about 45 minutes later, I heard the thing saying, right, next stop Temple. thought, hang on, how can I still be at Temple? So I'd either go around the wrong way, either the wrong way around or around twice. It may be more than, more than twice, to be honest.

Steve (05:19.32)
Fred checks it.

Steve (05:27.362)
Yeah. Yeah.

Steve (05:35.214)
You went all the way round!

Nick (05:45.139)
I got on the last train back to Bristol by about 30 seconds before they closed the door. Well, I don't know. It's not very sensible, is it? So I wouldn't recommend anyone does that because I had four grand's worth of camera kit on me and presumably for at least an hour I was just passed out on the, on the tube. So,

Steve (05:48.52)
people stepping over you as they were walking by, you know. Okay. No, no.

Can we just say for any bride and groom to listen to this, Nick does not normally get trollied when he photographs a wedding. And this was after the wedding. We'll be able to talk about when you and I shot together recently as well. But before we do that, let's start the show.

Nick (06:05.716)
Or at least afterwards, at least wait till afterwards, yeah.

Steve (06:17.304)
So hello again and welcome to the photography pod with me, Steve Vaughan and my good mate Nick Church. And we haven't been here for a while because we've been busy photographing weddings and generally keeping on top of our workloads. So this is just a quick mid wedding season catch up and we're to just chat about what we've been up to and also look at what's going on in the world at the moment, including the soccer world cup or if you're not American, the football world cup. How are you mate? Apart from getting asleep on the truth, how are you? Yeah.

Nick (06:41.522)
Right. Yeah, very good. Yeah, very good. Yeah, lots going on. House moving imminently. So and loads of weddings. So it's yeah, keep it busy. And it's great to be catching up again. It's been I've missed I've missed our chats. Our podcast.

Steve (06:54.338)
Yeah, it is mate. it's been a... Yeah, me too. And, know, dear listener, we are going to come back again for, you full time come the autumn. We've got a lot of ideas, things we'd like to do. It's just recognizing that we're both a bit flat out. So, Nick in the middle is in the middle of a movie house as well, which is probably one of the three most stressful things you can do. And we're just flat out with weddings and everything else. So we will come back full time in the autumn, but this is just a mid season catch up. But you and I got to photograph a wedding together for the first time about six weeks ago.

Nick (07:20.15)
Absolutely. We did, yeah, that was great fun. Yeah.

Steve (07:24.238)
It was great fun. should put some context. So I picked up a stinking cold at an event and one of these things where you just can't get rid of the cough. And I gave it to Sam. So we photographed a wedding on the Saturday. It was a two bride wedding local to us. And I was starting to get better though. I still had a stinking cough, but Sam was really poorly as in sort of going hot and cold and feeling dreadful. So much so that the two bride said to her at dinner time, speechy time, go home.

So I took Sam home. But we had another wedding the day after a bit off patch down in Buckinghamshire. So I gave you a call and said, Nick, are you free? And thankfully you were. And it was great fun working with you, mate, actually, I have to say. Yeah.

Nick (08:05.096)
Yeah, it was really good. It was good. Lovely couple weren't they? it's great venue. so you started I basically the groom prep and started at the venue you were with the bride where she was getting ready and then and then we met up a bit later on as she arrived. It was good.

Steve (08:09.005)
They were a smashing couple, yeah.

Steve (08:22.383)
It was interesting just seeing the difference in your approach really. So you know you're there with the 70 to 200, I'm much more sort of in it, you know, getting, yeah, that's right, as if. And we should put out that this bride was the sister of a wedding, a bride, a wedding we did a couple of years ago. I knew the family, I knew the couple beforehand.

Nick (08:29.834)
Butler Jack Daniels. Yeah.

Steve (08:47.311)
You get used to working, so Sam and I photographed 400 odd weddings together really. And we know what we do, we know how we work, and we know what each other's roles are really. And just watching you work, and like when we did the portraits, you had some different ideas to what I had, and I went with it, oh, that was a good idea, I'm going to try that next time. And your approach to lighting as well, we both lit the dance floor with some AD200s, and we're both firing with different triggers. So yeah, it a lot of fun, mate, and hopefully we'll get a chance to do it again.

Nick (09:10.806)
That's right, yeah.

And being a second shot, love being a second shooter because it gives you just like that shot where we had the, the bride and groom in that, in that route. It just means you can think, right, that's going be a great shot. And you're not worried about having to capture loads of other stuff and you can focus on that. And when we did the dance floor stuff, you get all the, you know, you could, you can then spend a bit of time thinking, I'm going to get some sort of dragon shutter shots here and just spend time doing that and just be a bit more creative with it. It's yeah, it's really good.

Steve (09:17.133)
I've never done it before.

or since.

Steve (09:29.327)
Correct. Yeah.

Steve (09:36.365)
Yeah, and you got some great ones there. Yeah, When we do finally pack up doing our own weddings, which will be around this time next year, I do want to do some second shooting actually, because it must be quite liberating in some respects to know that you've

Nick (09:46.391)
Yeah, you don't have any of the all that pressure of the day and it's just gone. It's just gone apart from the you've done no of the lead up. You haven't done all the effort leading up to it. But you can just, yeah, you just drop in and there's a great there's a great me on Instagram of there's a reel of a second shooter just sort of chucking his SD cards going see I'm off just leaving and then leaving the poor photographer and all this.

Steve (09:54.061)
Yeah.

Steve (09:59.086)
No, all the editing afterwards.

Steve (10:15.026)
Couple out of them. So that was a lot of fun, mate. And hopefully we'll get a chance to do it again. yeah, we're super busy. So we've got two weddings coming up this weekend as we record as well. And it looks like the weather is going to pick up finally as well. So we're to back into that hot and sunny weather, but I won't be wearing shorts as we've said. So from a gear perspective, anything you've been up to, have you bought anything recently? you played with anything recently?

Nick (10:15.924)
Yeah. All these raw files to deal with.

Nick (10:21.696)
Yeah.

Nick (10:34.432)
pointing.

Nick (10:39.926)
No, I've been trying to get rid actually because I need to get clear about my studio for the new place. I've been trying to not buy stuff and actually thinking about getting rid of stuff, but mostly furniture that I'm not going to need. It's going to be a bit of a period where I don't have a set up immediately. Also, I'll have a room that can work from, but not a dedicated studio. So the big bits of furniture, I'm just going have to get rid of, think.

Steve (10:54.702)
Right.

Steve (11:06.819)
Yeah, I'm sure there's other people.

Nick (11:07.57)
But yeah, no, no, no, no more kit. Although I do like the look of the Osmo four and that pro version that this is definitely something.

Steve (11:16.313)
So we trailed this on our last pod, we? We knew that there was something come out. since then the Osmo 4 pocket four has come out and the 4P apparently is imminent, which is a dual lens one. I'm not sure I'd buy that one. I'm not sure I'd want that. I think I'd be happy with just for the standard one really. It looks a bit chunkier.

Nick (11:32.439)
Yeah, it depends on it. Yeah. The, the, the Osmo four has got a better sensor, isn't it? So it's potentially potentially you can crop into that with, with better results than you could with the three. Um, I, w in terms of a, a, a device to do hybrid weddings where you've just got a locked off angle. Um, I think it offers a lot. Um, but then probably you can have that wider anyway. You probably don't want it at 50 mil or something. You want it a bit, a bit 24, 28 kind of focal length.

Steve (11:40.808)
Exactly. Yeah.

Steve (11:51.545)
Yep.

Yep.

Steve (12:00.388)
Yeah, absolutely.

Nick (12:02.058)
Who knows, but yeah, the Osmo 3 is still a very useful piece of kit for me, I'm using it a lot. Yeah.

Steve (12:07.024)
Can't fault mine. Yeah. Can't fault mine at all. Yeah. One thing I have started doing, and I don't know I didn't think of this before really. So, you know, as you would have seen, I typically shoot with a 2450, 24 on the A7R4 and a 50 1.2 on the A7R4. And it just occurred to me, I know why I was thinking about it but obviously, you know, with the R4, you've got 61 megapixels with Sam's A1, we've got 50 megapixels. So you can crop in and have loads of resolution.

Nick (12:16.758)
Mm.

Steve (12:36.528)
So work off. there are some times when I'm on a 24, I wish I was on a 35. Sometimes one of 50, sometimes it was on an 85 depending on the venue. So what I've now just done, you know, the, um, the button on the lens, I've just programmed that into super 35 mode crop mode. Yeah. So to click, I can go straight from the 24 to a 35 and it becomes a 35 on a 26 megapixel camera, which is basically the next T3 is there really. Um,

Nick (12:37.568)
Yeah.

Nick (12:44.374)
Mm-hmm.

Nick (12:48.362)
Yeah.

APS-C whatever it's called, Yeah.

Nick (13:01.288)
And the F, what's your F stop? Is that also like a crop factor that...

Steve (13:05.616)
Well, it's still 1.4 or whatever, but in terms of depth of field effective, it's like to probably, it's probably one stop on, isn't it really? So if it's at 1.4, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. it just means if I do, you know, I'm a moment where I wish I was a bit closer and rather than thinking, I'll sort it out in post. Oh, I just pop in, you know, and let's be honest, even with the A74 33 meg, if I'm cropping and if I'm punching and all that, it's going to be what? I don't know.

Nick (13:10.418)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you still get the benefit of it being a fast lens in terms of the light. Yeah, yeah.

Steve (13:34.544)
12, 15 meg, probably something like that. It's still okay. You know, unless they're going to print it the size of a house, which they're not, then yeah.

Nick (13:36.062)
Yeah, yeah

Yeah. Well, if, the, in terms of my next camera setup, is, that is a strong push towards getting a higher high megapixel camera and like the, the R five or something. R six. Yeah. So something where, cause I've always said to you that, that, that 50 mil is a bit of a gap in my focal length range. There's don't have a 50 mil lens and I really feel like I would like one, but it wouldn't really add in terms of bang for the buck in terms of what am I going to earn back from it? I'm not going to.

Steve (13:49.666)
I love high-end cameras.

Steve (13:54.148)
Well, the R6 is the new one. Yeah. Yeah.

Steve (14:01.408)
Mm. Yeah.

Nick (14:11.19)
anything different from it. But with a high resolution camera, get my 35 on, APS-C crop mode, that's your 50 straight away, yeah.

Steve (14:18.032)
50. Yeah. Yeah. So the A7R6 obviously has been launched since we did last at a pod and it looks an unbelievable camera. Will I buy one? Not for the weddings when we do finally wrap up the weddings, I want a camera for myself possibly. But I mean, it's, had this conversation last time, didn't we? But we get into the laws of diminishing returns really. It's like, well, how much better can cameras be really? You know, and what more do you need that you haven't got already? You know.

Nick (14:24.252)
Mm. Yeah, it does.

Nick (14:34.39)
Mm.

Nick (14:43.382)
Mm.

Steve (14:47.472)
So it's a significant call really. So back to the 50, if you get a to get a used 55 1.8, there's a Sony Zeiss lens. If you get one of those for £40, that's a cracking little lens. It's a bit, 55 1.8, it's a Sony Zeiss lens. It's not the quickest focusing, but it's all right. But optically it's a belting lens really. it's those original, before Sony started making their own branded lenses, they were co-branding with Zeiss, yeah.

Nick (14:59.464)
Is it is that 55 or 50? Yeah. Yep. That's the like the F E isn't it? Is it? Yeah.

Nick (15:15.848)
Okay, yeah. Because they had that, they had that size distagon 35, 1.4, didn't they? Well, that's got real problems with decentering, isn't it? I have one, I loved it, but it was pretty heavy. And just that they're all decentered, you can never get a focus throughout the whole image.

Steve (15:17.411)
So he did.

Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't go there.

Yeah. Yeah.

No, this is a cracking little edge. It's probably the size of, I don't know, a couple of inches. Yeah. It's not, it's not the longest lens, but it's a nice, if you want to have a 50 ish in the bag without spending a of money, try and pick one of those up second hand. used to have one until I bought the 51 too. So yeah, well with having really so we haven't bought anything. No, we've been very good actually, to be honest. I bought a car, but that doesn't count. Yeah. I bought, I just bought a Toyota CHR plugin hybrid. Cause I want that.

Nick (15:38.006)
Mm.

Nick (15:45.621)
Yeah.

Nick (15:52.991)
I love you.

Nick (15:58.423)
All right, okay. What's the range? What's the plugin range then?

Steve (16:01.104)
It'll do about 50 on its own on the battery. So around town, that's more than enough, really. But unlike the one I had before, which is Mitsubishi Outlander, which when the battery died, it was just a really heavy petrol car. So terrible on fuel. This one flips into normal kind of Toyota hybrid mode. So even when the battery is run down, you still get 55, 56 mpg on it really. So I'm really pleased with it so far.

Nick (16:03.722)
Okay.

Yeah.

Nick (16:13.782)
Yeah.

Nick (16:19.773)
Okay.

Right, because that Outlander was one of the first PHEVs, wasn't it?

Steve (16:26.192)
It was one of the first ones. Yeah. And I was driving this pretty big bus around. I thought, do I need to drive this around on my own all the time? Really? When it's just me and Sam and hopefully soon one dog that we have two at the moment. But don't go there. Whisper that quietly. Cause the one's a bit old and yeah, anyway. So, um, well, so you had a great idea for today. Bear in mind, there's an event taking place in North America. I don't probably most of our American listeners haven't noticed, but there is.

Nick (16:35.242)
Yeah.

Nick (16:53.462)
They probably haven't. So it's the World Cup. This is the World Cup of the soccer football with the men kicking the balls into the soccer nets that they do. I thought we should have the World Cup of Photography 2026. And I've come up with a group system. So it's a standard system. And what we're going to do, we've got cameras in each group, and then each group is going to find a winner.

Steve (16:54.096)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Steve (17:01.274)
Yeah, England won 4-2 last night as well, incredibly, yeah.

Steve (17:10.487)
Wow. Wow.

Okay.

Right.

Steve (17:21.145)
Okay.

Nick (17:23.286)
And then we're going to find out the camera model that wins the photography pod world cup 2026 of cameras for the camera. mean, who's going to win? I mean, a new battery. don't know. So, right. So let me tell you the groups. Okay. We've got group. There's four groups group. A we've got Nick on the eight 50. All right. So, and we've also got, there's only two.

Steve (17:28.868)
the World Cup. Is it a prize?

Congratulations, here's your cut of coke. All the colas are available here. Okay.

Nick (17:52.923)
cameras in each group. Canon 5D Mark IV. So it felt good to have those two. That's like your old guard. It's like Tony Adams and Toad Butcher, isn't it? Those two. But put them together. Then we've got group B. We've got Fuji X-T5 against the Fuji X-106.

Steve (17:58.556)
King of the DSLRs.

Steve (18:10.321)
Okay, interesting. Yeah. Battle of the Fuge.

Nick (18:11.83)
Then that's your kind of, you know, a more nimble. So that's your Jack Grealish and Raheem Sterling. Then you've got group six, so group C, A75 versus the Canon R62. And then finally group D. Yeah, I ran out, to be totally honest with you, I'd run out of my football knowledge at that point. So I ran out of players that I could assign characteristics to. There we go. I knew the right person.

Steve (18:23.537)
Ooh, okay. So what are we getting? What are those? Are they getting into midfield dynamos? Yeah.

Steve (18:33.775)
Ok I hope you had Hugh Bellingham and Morgan Rogers then dear listening. thanks mate!

Nick (18:38.6)
I knew there was a podcast with you. It's taking this long. And then group D, we've got Nikon Z. So this is the big the big mirrorless boys we got Nikon Z nine two or versus the Sony a one. Okay, so kicking off on group A and there's not like home in a way.

Steve (18:52.389)
Wow. Wow. Okay.

Steve (18:59.119)
So do we play each, are we like one team each? So do I play the canon, you play the Nikon or do we just debate it?

Nick (19:04.456)
I think we just know because we just have to just argue the toss. And also that we can't, this is genre completely outside of any genre. So we can't specify what genre we're talking about. So it's a bit of fun. It's a bit of fun. And in, you know, at best it, it worse. It's just absolute nonsense. It has no podcast value of content whatsoever. And then we've got quarter finals stage and, and then torturously, if we get that far, we've got the semis in the final. but I think that'll be quick.

Steve (19:13.807)
All right. Okay. Yeah.

Steve (19:21.915)
please don't tune off the listener. Please carry on listening to us.

Steve (19:32.148)
I'm going to check with Sam, we've got enough beer in the fridge, hang on a second. Love it, let's go for it. Yeah, love it.

Nick (19:35.21)
Because we're talking about the cameras by then. So it's just about which was best. Right. So let's go for it. Right. So kick off. We've got Nikon D850 versus the Canon 5D Mark IV. So both two absolute classic DSLRs. I've used the 850. I used to have a 750. I used to use that a lot. D850 obviously 45 megapixel. 5D Mark IV is 30 megapixel.

Steve (19:44.151)
Wow, the battle of the DSLRs. Wow.

Have you used either camera?

Steve (19:54.426)
Okay.

Nick (20:02.248)
I think they're pretty similar, I would guess.

Steve (20:05.037)
So I've used a D800 and a 5D Mark III in my time really. So if I was to pick one of those two cameras, I'd pick the Canon.

Nick (20:17.928)
see, I didn't realize you'd go for the wrong option. you have but only because I think the dynamic range and low light for me, but then this isn't about me. It's not about wedding photography, anything else that what I would say is Canon, when these cameras were introduced, Nikon wasn't really in the game for video at all. So if you're interested in doing any video really Canon probably.

Steve (20:21.169)
hang on, tell me the right answer beforehand. So why would you pick the Nikon then?

Steve (20:35.845)
No, no, no.

Steve (20:44.625)
That's why I'd have gone for the Canon as a more of a hybrid camera. Yeah. So we had a D800. was, when we first started doing weddings, we had a D800, Sam had D800 and the shutter on that, sounded like scaffolding falling down. Every time we pressed the shutter, it was literally like, you know, you know, and sort of seismic counters in Honolulu started jumping around, you know, so, uh, it's the loudest camera I've ever used. I don't know if the A50 was the same, but, uh, the 800 was seriously loud. So I would never have used that.

Nick (20:48.299)
So I think.

Nick (20:59.798)
Like ricochet.

Nick (21:13.888)
So you're gonna go with the Canon despite the lower pixel count.

Steve (21:19.215)
Well, it depends what the rules are, but if you're asking me what Canon, which Canon, which camera would I prefer to use and own for the work that I do and my own interests, I'd go with the Canon purely for the video option on it, really, I think.

Nick (21:31.638)
Yeah, fair. Okay. I think the video probably tips it because I think the other things like megapixel care as we know, is, you know, depth is 3545 versus 30. They're plenty battery life probably better on the Nikon I would say. But yeah, yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Right. So Nikon DA 50 is out of the water. I'm not I'm not convinced that Canon is going to get much further than this this round at this stage. Let's see.

Steve (21:38.395)
So what?

So yeah, yeah, who cares? Yeah, yeah.

Possibly, yeah.

Steve (21:52.113)
Okay.

Well, wait, wait to see. mean, it depends whether they're playing in what time zone they're playing in, know, whether there's a, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they need a hydration break. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (21:59.351)
It's what time zone and what the climate's like, you know, can be humid. Depends if there's air conditioning, is there air conditioning in the stadium? And they have to, they have to the hydration break these days as well. Yeah. Yeah. Or a bit more coaching. was there. think it, yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Right. So group B, okay. So that's group A group A winner is Canon 5D Mark IV. Group B is the Fuji, um, setups. We've got XT5 versus X100 VI's X106.

Steve (22:08.015)
which is another word for an adverb break. Yeah. Yeah. yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Well done, Kevin.

Steve (22:26.329)
Wow, so tough one. They're both amazing cameras if you're into the foodie film world. Which would you choose and why?

Nick (22:33.774)
I probably controversially would probably now go for the X 100 V and I've got an XT five and I'm ashamed to say that it hasn't seen the use that I thought it would. In fact, I think I've probably used it maybe four, four times.

Steve (22:52.753)
I'm not using XT5, I'm XT4. I'm older than XT3.

Nick (22:56.096)
Yeah.

Yeah, it has. And I do. And I like the platform. I love the, the, XT five ergonomics and the lenses are great. They're small. They're solid. And I love all of it. It's just, it isn't full fit. The reason I got it was to make me take more photos. And I've got a feeling that actually having a fixed lens, Fuji X hundred is much more likely that I can, that I can literally stuff in a trouser pocket is much more likely to do that.

Steve (23:07.803)
fail.

Steve (23:14.95)
Yeah.

Steve (23:22.927)
Well, it's not that small actually. People would say about the X100 being pocketable and it's actually, you need pretty big pockets really. If you want to go small, you need to buy something like a Ricoh GR4 or something. Unless I'm at the bar. If it was me again, trying to think about all the use case scenarios, I'd have to go X106 really.

Nick (23:32.628)
And you've got famously deep pockets, Steve, haven't you?

First out the taxi, last of the bar.

Steve (23:50.695)
The X-T5 I think is a lovely camera. If I'm invested in the Fujifilm ecosystem, which we were, you know, as we mentioned before, we used to shoot Fujifilm professionally for a number of years. I just don't know why I'd take an X-T5 out rather than say this A7C2 that I'm talking to you on now, which isn't much bigger and is a full frame camera.

Nick (24:01.046)
Yeah.

Nick (24:08.608)
Yeah, I think that's exactly it. It's not, it's a bit smaller than my Sony full frame setup, but not by much. And not enough that I've, I think that's the reason I've not used it as much as I thought. It is a bit more bulky than, has actually made much of a difference. So I think the Fuji, even if it's not, sorry, the X-106, if it's not quite pocketable, it's definitely shove it in your man bag and not, I think, no more about it. Whereas the X-T5 and a couple of lenses is thinking, right, I need a

Steve (24:16.39)
Not by much,

Steve (24:33.413)
no, completely. Yeah.

Nick (24:38.006)
a fairly solid man bag and that's gonna be pretty heavy. That's something that I'm dedicating time to take out. the exit. Yeah, the fixed lens you stick it in your bag and if you use it doesn't matter. okay, so that's the winner there. So we've got group B is, yep.

Steve (24:42.066)
Correct, yeah. You're out taking photos rather than having the camera with you. Yeah, yeah.

Steve (24:50.154)
Yeah. I go X100 every time. Although all I would say sometimes I think the idea of it is greater than the actual application of it. I always think, oh, it's a wonderful camera and it's sitting behind me right now. And it sounds by the way, as we always say, but actually when I take it out, do I use it as much as I think I'm good to do? Perhaps not, but out of the two cameras, there's no brainer. Absolutely. The X106 wins every time for me. Yeah.

Nick (25:10.922)
Yep. Okay. So group C we've got, and don't know if this is a fair, you'd have to advise whether this is a fair pairing. We've got Sony A75 versus the Canon R6 II.

Steve (25:20.986)
I think they're both the high resolution versions of their series I think really I don't think there's anything more high resolution than yeah no, it'd be an R5 then probably, be an R5 I would say Yeah

Nick (25:28.374)
Well, the R6-2 is 24, A75. Yeah, Yeah, but the R5 is a bit more of a, you know, it's more expensive. You know, it was, I was trying to find a good, a good balance in which one would fit and actually probably an R5.5 would be more like the Sony, but so I went with the R6.

Steve (25:40.092)
Yeah.

Steve (25:44.401)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

We're in R5 or R6, R5 obviously is an older camera now and it's been heavily discounted now. Yeah. So we're doing R5. R5 versus Canon R6. Well for me, okay, we're biased with Sony users, the Sony wins every time. Why? Mainly lens choice, lens range with a Canon full frame system. You are locked into the world of Canon lenses because they haven't opened up the lens mount. So you cannot use anything made by Tamron, Sigma.

Nick (25:57.503)
Yeah. All right. Let's do it. right. R5.

Nick (26:07.988)
Yeah.

Nick (26:18.613)
Yeah.

Steve (26:22.298)
And it seems to me that they make their customers pay for that really. I have to say ergonomically, not used the Canon app. Was it an R6 at Matad when we met up in the pub?

Nick (26:35.209)
He had both actually, because he rented one. There's an R5 II now though, of course, which is 45 megapixel, but it's 2,600 versus 2,000 for the A75. Much faster continuous shooting, 30 frames per second on the R5 II. 8K.

Steve (26:37.978)
Right. Okay. That's probably more of a comparison really. Yeah, it's probably more of a comparison to be fair really. Yeah. Right.

Steve (26:53.948)
Biggest problem with the Sony is that sensor, the 61-megapixel sensor is very slow to scan.

Nick (26:59.638)
Yeah, but you're talking about the R5. Oh, sorry. Okay, we got mixed up. We were talking cross-possesses. You're talking about R5. Sony R5, right. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

Steve (27:04.444)
Yeah.

too many R's. If you look at the Sony R5 and the R4, which we have, it's the 61 megapixel sensor, which is in the Leica Qs and all those cameras. And it's a very high resolution sensor, but it scans really slowly. anything that involves using electronic shutter or shooting video, you do get a major problem with rolling shutter. Major problem.

Nick (27:31.336)
and something that they've really improved with the R6.

Steve (27:34.258)
on the new one because it's got a fully fully stacked sensor, but the R5 and the R4 hasn't. I think it's, I'm trying to take my Sony glasses off then. think the R5, Sony R5, Canon R5 is probably a better camera. I think it is. Yeah. And it's a better video camera. Yeah.

Nick (27:38.314)
Yeah.

Nick (27:50.559)
Yeah, I would agree with that. Certainly on the look and the specs, it looks like better company, But you're right about that lens ecosystem problem of just not having the, yeah.

Steve (27:59.921)
Well, it's deliberate on Canon's part. They deliberately want people to buy their glass. You can't blame me for that really. It's slightly arrogant as well, in my opinion. So I'll be just ready for a Canon over a Sony. I might need to go and lie down.

Nick (28:04.448)
Yeah.

Yep.

I know. Yeah. Sit down. I've had a long hard think about your actions. Right. So we've got, but also if Canon Fante sponsoring a podcast, then that's, that's fine. listen to me. Um, so Canon R6, um, has one group C. Finally group D we've got a Nikon Z9 II versus the Sony A1, which I'm guessing they say A1 too. Yeah.

Steve (28:16.531)
I'm sorry if you're listening slowly I don't mean it okay

We know who we are.

Okay.

Wow.

Steve (28:35.443)
Can we go A12 as well? Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (28:37.718)
That Nikon is an absolute beast of a camera. really ergonomically is for that. I think if you're into something where you're not needing to move quickly and you want to just have something that is ergonomically great, like something like landscape photography, nature, anything like that. think it's just absolutely fantastic. It's got a, know people realise it's got a vertical camera battery grip built into it. So you can, you've got two shutter release buttons. Um, it's just, yeah, it's a good bit of kit. Um,

Steve (28:51.964)
Yep.

Is that what Thomas Heaton uses now?

Steve (29:02.258)
Yeah, yeah.

Nick (29:06.326)
how that stacks up against the A12. What do you think?

Steve (29:09.501)
So we've got an A1 and Sam loves our A1, beauty of, you know, if you've never shot with an A1 or an A9, the beauty of the blackout free shutter is it's just phenomenal when you use that, know, clicking away the bride coming down the aisle, you don't lose that blackout or you photograph in a football. The A1 too, the benefit of that is that you've got the AI chip. So the focusing is even better around the A1. It was a difficult one.

Difficult while trying to take my Sony glasses off. Again, you got the benefit of the Sony glass, probably more than there is in the Nikon Z-Z system, but it's getting closer now.

Nick (29:47.284)
Yeah.

I reckon, I think the Sony A1 for me, I think Sony for that. The reason gave it the Z9 would be if you want something that you could literally drop off a cliff and it's just bomb proof, the Nikon bodies. Battery life is fantastic on there. But I think the other features I suspect the A12 is probably advanced there, which you'd expect because Nikon were so much behind professional level mirrorless bodies.

Steve (29:52.389)
I'm gonna go Sony. I'm gonna go Sony.

Steve (30:02.833)
Yeah, yeah, think the sound is to be fair as well. Yeah.

Steve (30:18.579)
And they use Sony sensors, course, although Nikon fans will scream down the phone to us saying, yes, but they're custom designed by Sony, but it's still a Sony sensor. Yeah, good point. Difficult one. I'm going to go A1-2. Yeah.

Nick (30:25.781)
Yeah.

Nick (30:30.742)
A12 can be had for 4,100 at Panama's moment. I don't know how much were they in this?

Steve (30:34.899)
Okay. Yeah. Well, if you buy it to the UK from an approved supply, probably still near over six grand. But Panama's is the great import, of course. Yeah. If you're listening to Sony UK, we don't endorse great imports, honest.

Nick (30:45.386)
Yeah, right. So anyway.

No, we wouldn't dream wouldn't dream of it. In fact, since being registered, I don't dream of it because there's no benefit if you've registered. So quarterfinals we've we have the then so quarterfinal one is Canon. Do we say Canon for the first one the 5D Mark IV? Yeah, Canon 5D Mark IV versus a strange match this one versus the Fuji X100 VI.

Steve (30:56.189)
benefit for you as a no, really. Yeah. Yeah. exciting. Right.

Steve (31:08.573)
We did say kind of 5D model 4.

Steve (31:17.733)
This is kind of like you imagine like you're playing a team where they've got all six footers and they're all man mountains and they're all cloggers against a team of nimble midfield archie gambles, you five foot two nippy kind of midfield players. That's the combination we've got here, isn't it? Yeah.

Nick (31:26.453)
Yeah.

Yeah, it's like load of badminton players playing rugby league team at football.

Steve (31:39.788)
Right. And not a Babington, no. Well, I'm going to vote Babington. I still think the X100 wipes the floor with that camera. For the things I'd use it for. Yeah. I mean, unless you've got a shed full of Canon EOS lenses, know, EF, EF-MAT lenses, which, okay, many people do because you can pick them up quite cheap. For the kind of things I'd use it for. Why would I take a 5D Mark IV out?

Nick (31:48.726)
Yeah.

Nick (31:54.23)
Hmm.

Nick (32:02.642)
Yeah. Yeah. And everyone would have a different view on that, wouldn't they? And I think I'd agree with that. think given the kit we've got in our camera bags already, that a 15 mark for is going to add anything, Fuji, you've got would add something to my.

Steve (32:05.563)
Of course,

Steve (32:15.091)
It would be interesting to use. can't remember the last time I used a DSLR. It's got to be eight years ago, if not more. It'd be interesting to pick one up and just see how I got on with it really. Cause I'm so used to the electronic viewfinder.

Nick (32:21.588)
Yeah. Yeah. I reckon there's a huge amount of rose tinted spectacles because I've got real fond memories of DSLRs, you know, sort of how reliable they are and how they just focus in pitch blackness. And I suspect you forget all the other stuff about, it doesn't do well to focus or yeah.

Steve (32:30.223)
Mm.

Steve (32:36.199)
Well, don't.

Lens calibration, all that nonsense. yeah. And of course, if you really want an optical viewfinder, you can add that on the X100 anyway, because you can click between the two. You've got the optical viewfinder and the electronic viewfinder. So if you really want to go optical, you can do, yeah. Not they ever do. I don't know, everybody does, yeah. Okay, the mighty minnow fights its way through to the semifinal. Yeah.

Nick (32:47.323)
Right, Yep.

Yeah, good point. All right, so, so Fuji, yeah, he's come through, come through, it's like a little Maradona kind of, you can see where my football knowledge stems from, where it stops. All right, quarterfinal two was, I've made it, Steve, I've made a mistake.

Steve (33:01.427)
Messi and Maradona. Yeah, like 1986.

Steve (33:11.421)
suspense is killing me.

Steve (33:15.377)
Hang on. No, don't don't don't let it stand. Let me find the WhatsApp message you sent me about three hours ago. So the X100 has got through. So it would be the winner of the. Semi-finals, yeah, semi-finals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's OK. That's about 20 minutes of the podcast. People are thinking, thank God, on the end of the broadcast. So we've got the.

Nick (33:26.26)
We can't have quarter finals, we? Because there's only four groups. Semi-finals, right. So we're going to, right, so.

And then, right. So let's go straight to, I'll tell you what, if listeners were going to look at my logic to this, they'd think, right, this man needs a full-time support assistant because I've completely messed up the math here. So we've got Fuji have won the first semi-final. The second semi is the Sony A75. Oh no, the Canon R6. Yep. Versus the Sony A1 Mark II. What do you think?

Steve (33:42.109)
Canon R5 versus Sony A1 Mark II. Okay.

Steve (33:50.086)
I'm with you, so...

Steve (33:54.386)
Yes.

Steve (33:58.101)
Canon R5 Mark II, R5 Mark II, A1 Mark II.

Steve (34:07.089)
Ooh, tough, tough, tough, tough, tough, tough. And which is a Canon R5 Mark II right now in the UK. Bear with us, we are in control. Is he really?

Nick (34:17.014)
2600 quid. Yeah. Norwich cameras. Quick advert. Okay, so probably about 3500 then, maybe 3800.

Steve (34:22.553)
Yeah, but they're gray imported.

Steve (34:32.382)
coming up.

Steve (34:38.644)
That's a good, good 2,800 or some are five. I'm going to say three and a half grand, something like that. So it's going to be cheaper than a 70.

Nick (34:45.749)
Bye bye.

Yeah.

Steve (34:50.932)
Tough tough tough tough. What I do like about the Canon cameras, and I haven't used one for a long time, but picking up mattes in the pub, albeit with slightly IPA tinted glasses, literally and metaphorically, they feel nice in the hand, don't they? The Sony's are just a bit bricky.

Nick (35:00.054)
Mm.

Nick (35:11.38)
Yeah, I think they do. Yeah. think they've, Sony cameras are fantastic at low, almost everything they do, but they're not very ergonomic in some, you do feel like you're holding a, a computer that is just quite angular. they had that weird thing on his, on his camera, this Canon camera where it can, it will, you, if you look through the EVF, it will scan your pupil and it didn't work for me anyway, but to be fair, you have to calibrate it for yourself.

Steve (35:22.248)
No, computer.

Steve (35:33.62)
That's right, yeah.

It didn't work. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (35:40.106)
But basically you can look at where you want to look in the frame. You look at it and it will focus on the thing you're looking at. That's the idea.

Steve (35:43.944)
Yeah, it focused on there. Yeah. They had an EOS film camera, donkeys years ago, they did the same. That never worked either. I can't remember the model number. But that's a tough one.

Nick (35:50.016)
color machines.

Steve (35:57.865)
shall I take a breath? What do you

Nick (36:03.434)
I think for me, think the I think this is the toughest one because they're both extremely capable of virtually everything they do, but then they're at the of the range, aren't they? Obviously, yeah, we've gone to penalties and Grob Larsen, we've got

Steve (36:10.548)
Yeah, of course they are. of course they are. It might get a penalty, this one.

Steve (36:22.723)
When was the last time you watched a football match? 1992? No, it was in Mabian!

Nick (36:24.438)
He didn't even play for England anyway, did he? Exactly. All right, bring it up to date. David Seaman, for goodness sake. Yeah, I think I would go for if I didn't have any kit already, I think Canon R6.

Steve (36:33.451)
God, 1986.

Steve (36:44.314)
R5. Even.

Nick (36:45.224)
R5 yeah, Canon R5. If I didn't have any kit. Being that I've got a bag full of GM lenses, A1, A2, every time and I'm really tempted to get that for my next camera body.

Steve (36:58.096)
You had a play with Sam's A1 didn't you? mean the new one is obviously that much better still. Canon R5 Mark. Is it Mark 2 or Mark 3? No, it's Mark 2.

Nick (37:00.532)
Yeah, yeah, very nice. Yeah

Steve (37:18.292)
Can I ask R5 mark 2? Where the 24105 is 5'2", that's still cheaper than the list price for the Sony A1 mark 2.

Nick (37:27.19)
Mm.

They're definitely in that range of it. They're exactly the same, aren't they? In terms of quality of device and images you're to be able to take.

Steve (37:37.192)
Well, I don't think the Canon's got a, again, forgive me, don't write in, but I think the Canon's got a stack sensor like the Sony has, so I don't think it has blackout free, but it is cheaper.

Nick (37:49.142)
The R52 has, there's the R6 not.

Steve (37:52.533)
Does it? I don't know. Yeah. Okay, me look. R5, second generation sensor, revolutionary, backside illumination stack sensor. I take it back. Don't write in Canon users. I take it back. You know what? I'm going to go Canon. What the hell? What the hell? So this is like, this is like.

Nick (37:55.797)
Let me check that.

Nick (38:04.086)
Yeah. Yeah. So I think that would, that, that pushes over the edge for me. Yep. So now in the big final, I don't know if you're still listening, you're going to be so excited at this point because of the big final, we got a half time. Is it going to be a half time concert? Probably Beyonce or something. Eminem. Yeah. Yeah. Did you book her?

Steve (38:23.572)
We're going to have Shakira is going to come in now and do a quick song. Okay. You ready Shakira with the free? Yeah. Just pop in. Yeah. Do want a drink? no, it's Sam. Sorry. Hi Sam. Always.

Nick (38:32.374)
We've got this. She's always getting confused by this. She must be so annoying. We got Fuji X 106 versus the Canon R5.

Steve (38:47.743)
5.2. This is literally like comparing apples with pears. If we were sitting in a pub in Temple in London before we'd had the IPAs and we said, right, let's go and do some photography. And they're both sitting there looking at you, which camera do you grab?

Nick (38:50.944)
Yeah.

Nick (39:01.653)
Hmm.

Nick (39:09.91)
I think I'll probably grab the Fuji. Just because it's all right there and you haven't and the alternative is picking up the camera and three kilos of lenses.

Steve (39:11.496)
Me too. Me too.

Steve (39:21.906)
And also spending half an hour trying to work it out to use it. And cause I did with Matt's camera, you know, cause I'm programmed for so many. Again, it's so subjective. Well, exactly. And it depends what we're to do. If we were going to go photograph a wedding, I'm sure people can photograph a wedding with, I'm sure people like Kevin Mullins do. But to go and photograph. But if I'm going to pick a camera, cause I'm going on holiday in a quarter of week, cause I'm going to come on for a week with the family. And I'm not sure what I'm going to take, but if I wanted to pick up a camera, go on holiday and have a bit of a break.

Nick (39:24.212)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but you've had 1000 points.

Steve (39:50.804)
I'm going to pick up the Fujifilm every time with the two converters. Yeah. So the...

Nick (39:53.271)
Totally agree with that. Totally agree. Yep. All right, that's that. the the photography pod World Cup champion 2026 is the Fuji X100 VI X106.

Steve (40:03.355)
is drum roll

Steve (40:10.497)
Let's get his full name just in case Andreas Georgiades is named marketing manager of Fujifilm. It's the Fujifilm X100VI or 6 depending on whether you speak Latin or not. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway.

Nick (40:15.766)
Fujifilm.

Nick (40:21.558)
Yeah, Fujifilm X 106. There we go. What a winner. Yeah, the fireworks go off. The confetti cannons go.

Steve (40:29.62)
Yeah. Yeah. I can see all that. Yeah. I can see all the bookmakers taking their, their, their profit because nobody expected that. Nobody would pick that at the start. Yeah. It's like, you know, team coming from left field. Yeah. It's unlikely of Scotland winning the World Cup. Well, perhaps not quite unlikely. Well, that was a bit of fun. It made me think actually, I mean, I guess it does show, I mean, as we've said before, there's no such thing as a bad camera these days. It's like, no such thing as a bad car.

Nick (40:36.054)
Mm.

No, you wouldn't. Came right from came out of nowhere. Like Costa Rica. Yeah. They didn't qualify today.

Steve (40:58.601)
but it does depend on what you want to use it for really.

Nick (41:02.016)
Hmm. But yeah, absolutely. Completely. And if, if you were looking at this lot, this list of cameras, and you really want to go and take the best landscape photos ever, then you would have a totally different path through that, through that lot. But I think certainly we're probably in the similar camp of we've got loads of kit that would do that and having something that's completely immediate right there in a single fairly compact setup, that kind of trumps almost everything. And that's quite an interesting result because

all of the features and functionality and expense that goes into all of these really expensive camera bodies. Actually, that for us is for us personally isn't the most important thing.

Steve (41:28.969)
Yeah.

Steve (41:36.502)
No, and you look at that camera and you know, it's it's incredible bit of technology where they managed to pack inside that camera, you know, with the, they've got an IBIS in there now, which they said they can never do. It's a 40 megapixel sensor, but it is still flawed in many ways. It's all just in focus very quick. And, you know, it's still got the menus as brilliant, but it's just fun to use really. So what we need to do, mate, is when you've moved house and the stress levels are down, so it's like 20, 29, something like that.

We need to meet up in London, not go to the pub this time, or at least not to start with, and let's go and do some street photography and we can bring the X100 and you can see if you still feel the same.

Nick (42:12.954)
Yes. Good. Great. Great idea. And I think I don't want to rule out going to the pub just to make it clear. Either do it at the end or combined with having had something to eat before, before the whole thing. think either of those two things will work really well. Either eating something and going to the pub or not going to the pub until we've done some shooting. What are those two? And we'll do a live broadcast on location pod. Yeah. Good idea.

Steve (42:18.421)
No, can do that at the end.

Steve (42:24.437)
That's probably a idea.

Yeah, we should do.

Yeah, it's probably gonna do. Yeah, so it's probably gonna be the autumn.

Steve (42:36.957)
I would love to do that. That kind of takes us on a want to where we want to go. So as we said, this is like a mid season catch up. We're planning to come back around sort of September time, that kind of time for getting back into the routine and doing two shows every month. We've got a number of guests we'd like to bring up, but we really do, and you know, this is our fault, but we really do want to make an effort to get sort of more of a community going around this pod. So we do have a Facebook group, you know, we're going to try and do some meetups, do some competitions. And yes, you know, let's do a...

Let's do a of a meetup for a bit of street photography one afternoon or one evening, shall we say, before the, I mean, Daft is your like, longest day soon, isn't it? It's not going to be the longest day of the year. The lights are going to start crawling in ridiculously. But, know, and also I know I'm not going to go make, cause you do this bit, but trying to get some stuff on YouTube and all that as well. If we can, if we can do that. So having said that, I've had a great idea for a YouTube channel on my own. It's called a walk in a pint.

Nick (43:09.92)
Great idea.

Nick (43:14.91)
I know, I know, yeah.

Nick (43:29.897)
what's that?

Steve (43:33.623)
And that's what I'm going to do. I'm going go for a walk and have a pint. And I'd watch it if nobody else does. Now the idea is I'd start at a pub, go for a walk, talk about the pub, go for a walk, 15 minute walk, want to see places of interest, come back, have a pint and that's the end of the channel. End of the show. Would you watch it? No. Well, absolutely. Kushcan, yeah. Yeah, Kushcan. Yeah. So like me, I have lots of ideas, never put them into execution. So I'm going to have to make myself do this, but yes, I've even got the channel ready. There's nothing on it yet.

Nick (43:38.25)
Yeah.

Nick (43:48.758)
Yeah, watch it. We have guests on it. Can I be a guest on it? Excellent.

Nick (43:59.807)
No, that's a idea. Yeah.

Steve (44:03.798)
So check out a point, a walk in a point. The name came from a certain AI.

Nick (44:05.856)
We could go for a walk around, what's that end stone in the Cotswolds? That, the Falkland Arms. That's a nice dog.

Steve (44:11.382)
Yeah, there's Falkland Arms actually was one of the first ones that came up, that's in Great Chew. Do know that one, do you? Yeah, it's a great walk from there. So I'm not going to do like 20 mile yomps, they're going to be four or five mile little walks, come back, have a little Irnpine. So the idea is like 15 minute video, something like that really. And me just talking to the camera and talking, I know you said a naughty word, as I walk along and what I see. then, yeah, it's just, it's just an idea to get myself off the backside during the winter.

Nick (44:17.086)
Yeah, the great two, great two. Yep. That's right. Yeah.

Nick (44:40.788)
Yeah, cracking idea. Cracking idea, Steve. Top marks? Yeah.

Steve (44:40.854)
doing some stuff really. thank you mate. Yeah. Yeah. You were my first subscriber. Probably the only one. Anything else we want to talk about before we wrap up mate? It's been great catching up with you. Well, if you do like what we do dear listener, and again, recognize we've not been here for a while, but if you do like what we do, do give us a review on Apple or Spotify. Don't give us a snotty one like somebody did the other week and said the audio quality was terrible. It really upset me because I put a lot of work into the audio. I don't know if it was one that we just...

Nick (44:49.844)
That's it for me, my friend, yeah.

Nick (45:05.75)
Yeah.

Steve (45:09.606)
whatever reasons the Graeme's got in. if you do like what we do, please give us a nice review.

Nick (45:13.078)
Do reckon it was the boys, the photography podcast or something like that? Some other slight variation of our podcast. It wasn't the Fuji lads, was it? They wouldn't do such a defarious thing.

Steve (45:15.99)
You

It could be, it could be completely different while they were listening to it. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't us. Yeah.

They were as if they would as if they would. Yes, it gives a review. Definitely subscribe to the show. We do have a YouTube channel. It's a bit behind, but we will get it up to speed once we get out of wedding season. And as I say, we are hoping to go back. There is stuff on there. Yeah, there is, including the Andy Gotts one, which was one of the best ones we ever did. think I absolutely love that one. So, yeah, do subscribe to us to follow us. If you any ideas, things you'd like us to talk about or any guests you'd like us to have on the show, we'd love to hear that as well.

Nick (45:37.332)
And if you've not been on that, there is plenty of episodes to play through. yeah, go through that some really, really fascinating episodes. Yeah. Yeah.

Steve (45:53.814)
So we'll be back again around September time if we don't have another mid-season check-in. Cup season will be over then, I know what we're going to do instead. We'll think of another wacky competition of some sort.

Nick (46:04.116)
I think the World Crown Bowls Championship might be happening in early September, so we'll do that.

Steve (46:07.414)
Great idea. Or badminton, you said badminton. Yeah. Thanks for listening, dear listener. I will talk to you again soon. Bye bye now.

Nick (46:15.413)
Bye.